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	<title>Comments on: Top 10 Reasons Why You Should Use a PHP Framework</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Sturgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.phpandstuff.com/articles/top-10-reasons-why-you-should-use-a-php-framework/comment-page-1#comment-51861</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Sturgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using a framework for projects - especially when doing freelance work - is pretty much standard these days and 90% of jobs you go for will expect an understanding of at least one major framework whether you&#039;ll be using it day-in-day-out or not.

Frameworks like Rails and CakePHP are often considered faster but their automagic often gets in the way. Boil down a framework to its architecture and its collection of classes and you have a framework like CodeIgniter or Fuel, which are both designed to help you write write less code faster, without forcing you down the line of conventions and headaches.

Pick a framework that makes sense to you, that can be extended and overridden and that has a good collection of plugins. Thinks like the GetSparks,org project for CodeIgniter makes it a powerful player in the framework industry as it means addons can be included with a single command. Expect to see that rolled into CodeIgniter soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using a framework for projects &#8211; especially when doing freelance work &#8211; is pretty much standard these days and 90% of jobs you go for will expect an understanding of at least one major framework whether you&#8217;ll be using it day-in-day-out or not.</p>
<p>Frameworks like Rails and CakePHP are often considered faster but their automagic often gets in the way. Boil down a framework to its architecture and its collection of classes and you have a framework like CodeIgniter or Fuel, which are both designed to help you write write less code faster, without forcing you down the line of conventions and headaches.</p>
<p>Pick a framework that makes sense to you, that can be extended and overridden and that has a good collection of plugins. Thinks like the GetSparks,org project for CodeIgniter makes it a powerful player in the framework industry as it means addons can be included with a single command. Expect to see that rolled into CodeIgniter soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Widmann</title>
		<link>http://www.phpandstuff.com/articles/top-10-reasons-why-you-should-use-a-php-framework/comment-page-1#comment-20110</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Widmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good set of tools and tips you have here.  I liek PHP because it does have great organization and its generally pretty easy to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good set of tools and tips you have here.  I liek PHP because it does have great organization and its generally pretty easy to use.</p>
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		<title>By: PHP Resources &#124; The Michaeldon Roareth! - Mad rantings of an undiscovered dinosaur</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHP Resources &#124; The Michaeldon Roareth! - Mad rantings of an undiscovered dinosaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.phpandstuff.com/articles/top-10-reasons-why-you-should-use-a-php-framework &#8211; If you&#8217;re building any kind of web application you could probably benefit from some form of framework.  This explains some of the benefits. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.phpandstuff.com/articles/top-10-reasons-why-you-should-use-a-php-framework" rel="nofollow">http://www.phpandstuff.com/articles/top-10-reasons-why-you-should-use-a-php-framework</a> &#8211; If you&#8217;re building any kind of web application you could probably benefit from some form of framework.  This explains some of the benefits. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 11:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you have ever used vi but having small files in directories is not a challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you have ever used vi but having small files in directories is not a challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: murat</title>
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		<dc:creator>murat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 16:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used and completed few projects with CakePHP and Zend Framework. They are pretty good in development phase, but problem is if you need performance, php itself is enough for it so frameworks will reduce performance. Now im not using a single class because performance rules. But probably i will return to precious ZF :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used and completed few projects with CakePHP and Zend Framework. They are pretty good in development phase, but problem is if you need performance, php itself is enough for it so frameworks will reduce performance. Now im not using a single class because performance rules. But probably i will return to precious ZF <img src='http://www.phpandstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 18:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Although file and folder structures keep code and other stuff organized, I don&#039;t see why a framework should impose its own structure on me. Organization and obtrusiveness are common among existing frameworks.

2. When a framework allows PHP code in views and templates, there&#039;s no guarantee MVC will be enforced. &quot;Clean&quot; and &quot;maintainable&quot;?

3. Less code and faster development? Duh. Maybe if you get past the steep learning curve first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Although file and folder structures keep code and other stuff organized, I don&#8217;t see why a framework should impose its own structure on me. Organization and obtrusiveness are common among existing frameworks.</p>
<p>2. When a framework allows PHP code in views and templates, there&#8217;s no guarantee MVC will be enforced. &#8220;Clean&#8221; and &#8220;maintainable&#8221;?</p>
<p>3. Less code and faster development? Duh. Maybe if you get past the steep learning curve first.</p>
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		<title>By: spiky</title>
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		<dc:creator>spiky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello....what php editor use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello&#8230;.what php editor use?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you have been coding plain old PHP for years, and getting really bored with it, getting started with a Framework can give you that crucial morale boost you have been lacking.&quot;

That&#039;s exactly where I was at. Although I&#039;ve been happy with my growth over the years (building a pseudo framework for the intranet system at work), when looking into CI I&#039;ve been having a ball doing the CI From Scratch series. Just not having to do so much stuff by hand and being able to deploy a full-blown environment to build off of in minutes is really exciting.

Great article :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you have been coding plain old PHP for years, and getting really bored with it, getting started with a Framework can give you that crucial morale boost you have been lacking.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly where I was at. Although I&#8217;ve been happy with my growth over the years (building a pseudo framework for the intranet system at work), when looking into CI I&#8217;ve been having a ball doing the CI From Scratch series. Just not having to do so much stuff by hand and being able to deploy a full-blown environment to build off of in minutes is really exciting.</p>
<p>Great article <img src='http://www.phpandstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: merry</title>
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		<dc:creator>merry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know ,but i chose java</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know ,but i chose java</p>
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		<title>By: aditia</title>
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		<dc:creator>aditia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my own reason is you don&#039;t have to repeat what you have done, except you have your own framework, but i don&#039;t. 

ya ya i start with cakephp and then codeigniter and now trying to explore kohanaphp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my own reason is you don&#8217;t have to repeat what you have done, except you have your own framework, but i don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>ya ya i start with cakephp and then codeigniter and now trying to explore kohanaphp</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and Hacker attack !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and Hacker attack !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started with CakePHP, did one simple project, but then i ran into problems understanding the framework itself, so i switched to CodeIgniter and learned lots of PHP along the way. I really like the structure of CI and how it handles the MVC pattern. Lately i started another project and implemented Doctrine (thanks to you) and whole Zend Framework into the CI&#039;s library folder. I found out that Zend is way more professional coding than other frameworks, but CI is one of the most flexible allowing you so much freedom as developer, so you can still have the CI&#039;s base and include the Zend standalone package. This way you let the Zend deal with the backend and CI with the presentation. 
As an experienced PHP developer i strongly recommend using CI as your first framework then you will understand other frameworks quite easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started with CakePHP, did one simple project, but then i ran into problems understanding the framework itself, so i switched to CodeIgniter and learned lots of PHP along the way. I really like the structure of CI and how it handles the MVC pattern. Lately i started another project and implemented Doctrine (thanks to you) and whole Zend Framework into the CI&#8217;s library folder. I found out that Zend is way more professional coding than other frameworks, but CI is one of the most flexible allowing you so much freedom as developer, so you can still have the CI&#8217;s base and include the Zend standalone package. This way you let the Zend deal with the backend and CI with the presentation.<br />
As an experienced PHP developer i strongly recommend using CI as your first framework then you will understand other frameworks quite easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel Marnix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcel Marnix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fun factor works for me!

I am still in a learning curve, but after I&#039;ve tried Zen, Smarty, Symfony etc. I realy like CI and netbeans, I am having so much FUN with my new toys :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fun factor works for me!</p>
<p>I am still in a learning curve, but after I&#8217;ve tried Zen, Smarty, Symfony etc. I realy like CI and netbeans, I am having so much FUN with my new toys <img src='http://www.phpandstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have written my very simple website framework, after i have written a C# app for it to generate php code ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written my very simple website framework, after i have written a C# app for it to generate php code <img src='http://www.phpandstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the arguments :) now i know why i chose Yii :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the arguments <img src='http://www.phpandstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  now i know why i chose Yii <img src='http://www.phpandstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stelian Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stelian Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see there are a lot of CI fans around here. Including myself. I love the way that I can set it up very easily for small project. I haven&#039;t had any large project as of yet, but I assume Symphony would be more suitable for those, from what I read anyway.

@3m masr: I don&#039;t know about doctrine but I think CI had a special user contributed library for smarty. You could probably find it in the wiki. And using jQuery is as easy as with any other HTML page. Just include the script and code away</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see there are a lot of CI fans around here. Including myself. I love the way that I can set it up very easily for small project. I haven&#8217;t had any large project as of yet, but I assume Symphony would be more suitable for those, from what I read anyway.</p>
<p>@3m masr: I don&#8217;t know about doctrine but I think CI had a special user contributed library for smarty. You could probably find it in the wiki. And using jQuery is as easy as with any other HTML page. Just include the script and code away</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post, very true that using a framework will make you more efficient and organized.

I&#039;m deciding between frameworks and very inclined towards Zend or Kohana, but I really like your CI posts too.

thanks for sharing.
mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post, very true that using a framework will make you more efficient and organized.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m deciding between frameworks and very inclined towards Zend or Kohana, but I really like your CI posts too.</p>
<p>thanks for sharing.<br />
mary</p>
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		<title>By: bl4z</title>
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		<dc:creator>bl4z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>number one should be productivity boost // but it&#039;s kinda sum of all reasons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>number one should be productivity boost // but it&#8217;s kinda sum of all reasons</p>
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		<title>By: 3m masr</title>
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		<dc:creator>3m masr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really love CodeIgniter but i wanna some resources about linking it with Jquery , doctrine and Smarty .

i found a post here about CI and Doctrine that i hope you complete very sooooon .

thanks again !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really love CodeIgniter but i wanna some resources about linking it with Jquery , doctrine and Smarty .</p>
<p>i found a post here about CI and Doctrine that i hope you complete very sooooon .</p>
<p>thanks again !</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Oerlemans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Oerlemans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great arguments to use a PHP Framework. I recomment CodeIgniter for the beginner and Zend Framework for the advanced programmers. But I&#039;m still a mid-advanced programmer. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great arguments to use a PHP Framework. I recomment CodeIgniter for the beginner and Zend Framework for the advanced programmers. But I&#8217;m still a mid-advanced programmer. <img src='http://www.phpandstuff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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